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unitedtaps
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 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 04:56:54
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Okay so I was taught a Traditional time steps start with a shuffle, and a Buck time step starts with a stomp spank (brush back). I found that almost everywhere I went other teachers simply taught a time step as starting with a stomp (no spank or brush back) and they didn't specify it as a Buck time step. I finally gave in and teach a single time step as starting with a stomp with no spank. When the kids get more advanced I teach the traditional and the Buck with spank just so they are exposed to it. How do you do time steps and do you differentiate between Buck and Traditional? Also I was always told a time step starts on count 8. Anyone else taught that way?
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Lagun
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 15:22:01
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| Hey, I too was taught a Traditional time step starts with a shuffle and on count 8. I too have given in and teach a time step starting with a stomp. |
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unitedtaps
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 16:04:21
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| What can we do? I do at some point teach my kids the way I was taught so they are at least exposed to it. I talked to the Leader of the ITA about working towards standardization of tap terminology. I told I knew it woul be a long term project but I thought it was worth it. I don't even care which versions of the terminology or steps we use as long as everyone uses the same ones. |
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alaskatapper
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 01/17/2009 : 01:12:29
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When I was taught I was taught ALWAYS on 8 and with a shuffle, however I have found when starting to expose 8-10 year olds beginning with a stomp seems to have that beginning and end to make it less confusing for them.
I am also huge on terminology and have had the same steps called 5 different things, I try to teach steps with everyname I personally know for them and let the students know that they are all equal to eachother. I would say the majority of my teachers went by Al Gilberts methods. I teach both traditional and buck like you said to expose them to it, I personally prefer the stomp ( I also use stomp spank) when everyone is confortable with the base.
I used to explain the method of single-single, single-double, single triple, double-single, double-double, double-triple, triple-single, triple-double, and triple-triple, all can be traditional or buck (I prefer Buck) some got it some didn't but I was thankful when someone explained it to me ;) |
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unitedtaps
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2009 : 03:22:51
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| What is the method of single-single, single-double, single triple, double-single, double-double, double-triple, triple-single, triple-double, and triple-triple? |
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alaskatapper
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2009 : 12:40:15
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okay are you ready for this.....as you know singles are steps, doubles are flaps, and triples are shuffles.(ps this started when I had a student come to me and said she could do a triple-double time step which I just call a triple) these are all buck but you can use traditional in any of them....
single-single = stomp hop step, step step stomp
single-double = stomp hop step, flap step stomp
single-triple = stomp hop step, shuffle-step step stomp
double-single = stomp hop flap, step step stomp
double-double = stomp hop flap, flap step stomp
double-triple = stomp hop flap, shuffle-step step stomp
triple-single = stomp hop shuffle-step, step step stomp
triple-double = stomp hop shuffle-step, flap step stomp
triple-triple = stomp hop shuffle-step, shuffle-step step stomp
I still only call them single, double, and triple in class and I use the single - double, double - double and triple -double for those. whew.... As you can see it can get very confusing trying to explain it in words but in writing you can see the patterns...have you ever seen these at all or even with different names? This is Al Gilbert also
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JennyD
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USA
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Posted - 01/26/2009 : 11:07:04
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I learned at Al Gilbert's too but I'm recalling 3 basic time steps plus a traveling verision of all three.
Single Time step: shuffle-hop-step-flap-step
Double Time step: shuffle-hop-flap-flap-step
Triple Time step: shuffle-hop-shuffle-step-flap-step
Traveling just meant that you put shuffle-step-shuffle-ball change, ball change (traveling to the side) in front of any of the above 3 time steps. Does this ring a bell to anyone?
Jenny Durling |
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unitedtaps
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USA
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s-buckingham
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Posted - 02/24/2009 : 05:49:06
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| My group can do a wide variety of time steps; we know how to do the Wing Preparation Time Step - Advanced, but most of us find the single foot pick-ups defeat us, unless we are holding on to the bar! And of course we do not do them at full speed....! |
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unitedtaps
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 15:28:11
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Everyone,
Can you share some time steps that aren't in my dictionary? I'm always keen to learn something new!
Rod |
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alee1383
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 06:43:42
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ok i have quite an extensive list of timesteps for you that use.. are you ready?!:)
ok so besides the ones you list in your dictionary, we also do:
double triple time step: sh hop sh leap sh ball change
heel stand time step: hop sh step hl stand stp stp sh ball change stp stp
ruby keeler time step:sh hop hop flap stp sh hop step flap stp
cramproll time stp:stomp spnk hop stp flap left hl right hl left heel dig,( this one can be done single double or triple)
bojangles time step: hop sh ball change stomp spank hop sh stp sh stp sh stp
bombershay time step: (starts on and1 so illegitimate timestep)
spank hop sh stp sh stp stp scuff flap and 3 bombershays
pick up time step: sh pickup stp flap stp( can be done s,d,t)
wing time step: stomp spank hop stp wing on r , flap step
toe tap time step: stomp spank hop toe tap chug stp flap step (there are variations of this)
military time step: sh hop stp stp stp sh hop stp stp stp sh hop st sh hop st sh hop stp stp stp( you can do this s, d,or t as well)
i hope this helps!!! i think this website is awesome! |
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rhythmfreak
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USA
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 20:03:24
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| Out of curiosity, how far does a buck time step go? Would shfl flap be quadruple? And what about stamp(r) hop(l) shfl(r) step(r) toe(l) wing(r) (like a wing prep thingy, no weight on the foot) step(r) stamp(l) ? Does that fit into buck time steps or is that just some other move created with the foundations of the buck time step? |
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unitedtaps
Forum Admin
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 21:46:32
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| For a buck quadruple I do a shuffle step heel. As for how far they can go, you can pretty much add sounds as long as you want. I think triple is the highest version that's pretty much standardized (as much as can be in tap), once you get to quadruple variation abound. The wing version you describe I just call it a wing time step. I would consider it "another" time step bult on the foundations of a buck time step, but I also believe it would qualify as a "buck" time step. |
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